Forged garbage

[89vert]

My bro's motor, rotating assembly is together

lets hope the 2 bolt mains hold up to the nitrous :noes:

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[89vert]

:D

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[MonkeyWrench]

dummy pistons......

looking good

[Jessev]

no hot-tank for block?

[79 Z28]

looks like a start, REMEMBER! keep the rpms down especially on nos, or you will be picking it up in pieces lol, the forged pistons will help though, they are lighter.

[Dizzle]

Hopefully you two clowns assemble it right this time :D
lets not have a repeat of the t/a ;)

[89vert]

Hopefully you two clowns assemble it right this time :D
lets not have a repeat of the t/a ;)


that was a case of a bad crank

[Dizzle]

i told you to stop cranking.

GOD

[91Vert]

Hmmm NOS and 2bolt Mains gotta luv it always been a gambling Man. LOL :fingersx:

[66chevyIISS]

Why didn't you run studded mains? Are those rods stock or did you have anything done to them? Looks good.

[66chevyIISS]

no hot-tank for block?


??? looks tanked to me, it doesn't come out painted :rofl:

[89vert]

Why didn't you run studded mains?* Are those rods stock or did you have anything done to them? Looks good.


over sized ARP rod bolts, other wise stock

my bros motor, it was supposed to be a budget build then it started to turn the other direction, but he still didn't want to go all out

[79 Z28]

no hot-tank for block?


??? looks tanked to me, it doesn't come out painted* :rofl:
:rofl:

[383TA]

looks like a start, REMEMBER! keep the rpms down especially on nos, or you will be picking it up in pieces lol, the forged pistons will help though, they are lighter.


I thought that a forged piston was way heavier. I was comparing the weights of a speed pro forged piston and a cast unit. The forged was about twice as heavy.... A forged piston has more material in it that a cast unit because it is compacted in the forging process....

[89vert]

high quality forged is lighter

[91Vert]

JE or SRP hmmm Forged GOODNESS. Me like.

[79 Z28]

looks like a start, REMEMBER! keep the rpms down especially on nos, or you will be picking it up in pieces lol, the forged pistons will help though, they are lighter.


I thought that a forged piston was way heavier.* I was comparing the weights of a speed pro forged piston and a cast unit.* *The forged was about twice as heavy....* A forged piston has more material in it that a cast unit because it is compacted in the forging process....
no a cast piston is WAY heavier then a forged piston

[66chevyIISS]

maybe not a bowling ball TRW, but yes

[350vert]

Why didn't you run studded mains?* Are those rods stock or did you have anything done to them? Looks good.

they never mentioned to convert to studded mains
probably thought it wasnt necessary

they converted to oversized arp rod bolts :D

[350vert]

Hopefully you two clowns assemble it right this time :D
lets not have a repeat of the t/a ;)

crank was magnafluxed this time
even though its brand new :D

[Dunout]

how tight is that spiget sapose to be kuz i only hand tighted it on my block ... well thats what i think its called its what the oil filter screws on too

[350vert]

how tight is that spiget sapose to be kuz i only hand tighted it on my block ... well thats what i think its called its what the oil filter screws on too



5/16 bolts giver 22 ft/lbs

[90_IROC]

looks like ur running lean, u need more fuel. it doesnt look like its running very well yet :noes:

[91Vert]

I would rather be startin all over with mine iu wish there was was reset Button somehwere cuz mines in and it isn't running very well.

[Dunout]

how tight is that spiget sapose to be kuz i only hand tighted it on my block ... well thats what i think its called its what the oil filter screws on too



5/16 bolts giver 22 ft/lbs


thanks ur my hero lol

[sdubfid]

I'm confused, theres so many people with vert in their name. Is this the $8500 305, or is this a different motor? What kind of rings are in this one??

[Jessev]

this is 350vert's duh

[89vert]

I'm confused, theres so many people with vert in their name.* Is this the $8500 305, or is this a different motor?* What kind of rings are in this one??


no

thats 91Vert, alot of the $8500 is headers, TB, new sensors stuff like that, plus being put together and all new suspention, rearend etc.

this is my bros motor, he had it lightened balanced and blueprinted by the same guys that did, 91Verts motor, but hes doing his own assembly,

both motors have very similar bottom ends other then 1's a 350 and the others a 305,
both built to take a 100-150shot of nitrous,
my bro is only into his for like $3000 I believe,

but hes still got to buy headers(just ordered yesterday), AFPR, underdrive pulleys, A/C delete pulley, and and whatever other little bolt on there are,

I've almost got him sold on some aluminum heads, but hes already way over budget,
and heads are easily added at a later date


both cars will be tuned by me, but I got to get my WB O2 up and running first :)

[sdubfid]

Cool

Do you have any specs on your brothers motor?* Compression?* Cam?* Is he going to run just stock heads until the budget is there for aluminum?

How soon will it be done?

Oh yah what wideband did you get? The lc1 or lm1?

[89vert]

Cool

Do you have any specs on your brothers motor?* Compression?* Cam?* Is he going to run just stock heads until the budget is there for aluminum?

How soon will it be done?

Oh yah what wideband did you get?* The lc1 or lm1?


I belive he went 9.6:1, sticking with stock heads for now, but those can easily be changed at a later date,

its an eagle crank, stock rods with over sized 7/16's arp studs
and forged pistons(not sure which but I think JE)

as soon as his headers get here it'll start going together, he's still got to order his AFPR, pulleys, and pick up his timing chain

I got the LC-1, bought 1 my parents dog fucking ate it,
got another 1, the program and setup I use for tuning allows for 3 additional 5V inputs or can be jumper for a single 12V, so I just got the stand alone, I'm probably going to get 2 more soon enough, so me and my bro can run them in our cars full time and still have a 3rd for tuning

[350vert]

probe pistons
stock heads with some porting done
3 angle valve grind

[90_IROC]

probe pistons
stock heads with some porting done
3 angle valve grind


garbage ::) :fingersx:

[89vert]

Cam in, heads on, being preped for paint,

need oil pump, push rods and a couple other parts on order, will be running in the csr hopefully early June :fingersx:

[90_IROC]

early june?? ... im counting on it. i now have every saturday and sunday off, so when his car is running, we need to do a vert cruise :fingersx:

[350vert]

its done as soon as my headers come in :)

[91Vert]

Yah Have with Aircare, Muah Muah. Jesus eh I am leaving for fishing trip gotta index springs, rotate D/S 180* because ugly Vibrations past 110kmh, then AIRSCARE!! :eek:

[90_IROC]

Yah Have with Aircare, Muah Muah. Jesus eh I am leaving for fishing trip gotta index springs, rotate D/S 180* because ugly Vibrations past 110kmh, then AIRSCARE!! :eek:


edit: you have fun with aircare, muahahaha ****

[89vert]

Yah Have with Aircare, Muah Muah. Jesus eh I am leaving for fishing trip gotta index springs, rotate D/S 180* because ugly Vibrations past 110kmh, then AIRSCARE!! :eek:


edit: you have fun with aircare, muahahaha ****


I'll get it through just need some time

[Wagonized]

it'll pass its not thaat radical of a setup

[350vert]

it'll pass its not thaat radical of a setup

thats what i think too

but 91vert is running the same cam and he is having trouble

its a MAP or MAF is better thing :fingersx:

[91Vert]

Yah that could be my whole problem, MAF swap???? :D should be able to get my D/S and my Springs done this weekend. then iam good to grow.

[89vert]

Yah that could be my whole problem, MAF swap???? :D should be able to get my D/S and my Springs done this weekend. then iam good to grow.


dave I think a heated O2 would solve your problem for the most part,

I've been going over you logs and your computer thinks your car is lean, and emmsions say rich, I'm sure a heated O2 will solve the problem for the most part,
then I got to tune your fuel,

[91Vert]

I talked to a guy about Aircare a few weeks back and he actually phoned to check up on how i was doin because of the 2 fails. Kinda nice but any ways here goes Steve he sayed Run stock Fuel PSI 37-42 unless i am leaning out at WOT. He also stated Cams and MAP can be a bit of a cock and sayed your Bro should have minimal if any problems with MAF. DOUBTFUL. He sayed the heated O2 is a good Idea but it boils down to milivolts he sayed. Above 800 at WOT and below 200 at Idle O2 i believe he sayed changed but iam looking at a bunch of scribbles on a receipt. Anyways He sayed 700milivolts is optimal at WOT for the Sensor. Also sayed with forged pistons it could create more knock due to the fact they r much lighter a flop around more that is what could be causing the Knock to come on. So yah any ways iam off too the Kootneys then SPOKANE for Work so i really dunno when the fuck iam gunna get the D/S and Springs done so i can attempt Aircare again. I'll call u when I get back and maybe have a few days off. :fingersx: Like Hell if noot maybe i could just PAY u to come out and doit for me.LOL :naughty:

[91Vert]

Also the guys sayed all it is, is AIR/fuel. Not a bigg deal just Super rich just gotta get her TUNED.

[89vert]

your car isnt sensing any knock, thats why its calling the code, not too much, I thought about the fuel pressure thing but that won't really effect you afr until WOT,

umm the guy you were talking to sounds like,

700mv is not enough for WOT, and an O@ sensor isn't really accurate that way anyway,

a narrow band O2 voltage goes up and down and the computer calulates an average, cross counts are more important then actual voltage,

the problem is your O2 is reading lean cause its not hot enough, the ecm is dumping extra fuel in,
I know your ECM thinks your car is lean based on the logs I took, your emmsions are saying your car is rich, O2 has the final say in weather you are rich or lean

[91Vert]

K cool well then hopefully tomo i can get my D/s and Springs done but then i am off to X-tina Lake for work then Spokane in mida to late week so maybe wee could set something up for next sunday dude depending on your hectic schedule.

[89vert]

K cool well then hopefully tomo i can get my D/s and Springs done but then i am off to X-tina Lake for work then Spokane in mida to late week so maybe wee could set something up for next sunday dude depending on your hectic schedule.

yeah I think next sunday is good for me

[91Vert]

Yah well i 'll call u when i know more about my work and stuff I'll grab like a 3 day permit way cheaper and we can fuck with stuff. The guy at aircar seemed to think running stock fuel pressure is best unless i find my self leaning out at WOT. So i think iam gunna drop it to 42psi. and just record what we physically to the car to pass aircare if i pass.LOL Obviously the chip u burn will also help. Is there anything i need to get to WIRE up the O2 other than my the sensor itself??

[89vert]

Yah well i 'll call u when i know more about my work and stuff I'll grab like a 3 day permit way cheaper and we can fuck with stuff. The guy at aircar seemed to think running stock fuel pressure is best unless i find my self leaning out at WOT. So i think iam gunna drop it to 42psi. and just record what we physically to the car to pass aircare if i pass.LOL Obviously the chip u burn will also help. Is there anything i need to get to WIRE up the O2 other than my the sensor itself??


a bosch relay, I can pick up for you

[91Vert]

K yah well if u get the relay that would be cool but as of right now iam leaving agin for X-tina lake thought i would have time to do my D/S and rotate my Front springs but i don't see that happening anytime this weekend because iam leaving tomo at 8 and i havn't had more than 5 hours sleep ina week iam fucking burnt out. Iam was gunna try to get it done today but 2 lil jobs turned into a full day of work i told my bro i would pay him to do it but i don't think he will. So.. yah might not be next weekend but i'll keep in touch. Maybe i could just bring it out to your place and we could just do it all the Springs D/S 180* do the O2 then the next day take her to aircare or something. I dunno too much work not enough play made like 750$ this week. :| Not that i hate work i just have no time to get my Bitch on the fucking road so when i do get home i can actually play with my Project otherwise it'll bew a 2 year project and that just sux.LOL

[91Vert]

Well I rotated my Driveshaft and while i was under there i noticed a nice fuel leak at my fuel filter tightened her up an it is good now. I think that might be why when u set my pressure it was bleeding off the next day anyways 2 problems solved 2 more and iam coolin.

[350vert]

why would a heated o2 sensor matter once exhaust is up to temp

[89vert]

why would a heated o2 sensor matter once exhaust is up to temp


exhaust doesn't get as hot with headers,