Nitrous

[Dunout]

whats a good system to go with ?

[Zion]

none at all.

[91Vert]

Carb-TBI or TPI???

[350vert]

jegs.com

[89vert]

none at all.


his motor would be great for a boat load of nitrous

[steve86]

none at all.


his motor would be great for a boat load of nitrous
like mine?

[89vert]

none at all.


his motor would be great for a boat load of nitrous
like mine?


stock 305's don't handle nitrous well

[Wagonized]

whats a good system to go with ?


nos sniper is a good basic kit for carbed applications

mines for sale for $350 complete

[Daniel Doerksen]

what kind of things do you need to consider before nitrous...
what specs should you have in ur engine too handle without blowin ur engine to shit? becuase im kinda considering it.

[Jessev]

forged internals

[89vert]

forged internals

[Sig]

just spray the shit out of it, im going to be spraying my car again, and maybe even on hypereutectic pistons like the one i previously broke* :D The instant torque from a 100+ shot is lots of fun* 8)

[TransamLover86]

Craig

[Wagonized]

in a sbc you dont need any mods for a 100 shot other than to retard your timing and make sure your fuel pressure doesnt drop.

100 shot is very mild considering what some people are spraying to stock (bottom end) motors.

[Daniel Doerksen]

im running a 327, 9.8 compression its a brand new rebuild, with work down to the heads, and a beefier cam. how much retarding would i have to do... im running 8-10 degrees advanced

[89vert]

you can do what ever you wan't,
but I wouldn't if your gonna be pissed when a piston lets go

[Dunout]

so i was thinkin of a 150 shot zex system ...

ZEX NEW 4-BARREL CARB NITROUS SYSTEM 100-300 HP!

[indecisive]

Is that new zex perimeter plate worth looking into?

[Wagonized]

im running a 327, 9.8 compression its a brand new rebuild, with work down to the heads, and a beefier cam. how much retarding would i have to do... im running 8-10 degrees advanced


retard 2 degrees per 50 shot


Is that new zex perimeter plate worth looking into?


apparenty yea...eric gained a nice bit of power on the dyno with one

[Dunout]

im going with the zex system

[Sig]

good shit, get the purge kit too it works good* 8) and dont forget a blow down tube

[Dunout]

perg is cool to see when u stage the car in mission some nebbies think like WOO 1000 HP lol

[Daniel Doerksen]

im running a 327, 9.8 compression its a brand new rebuild, with work down to the heads, and a beefier cam. how much retarding would i have to do... im running 8-10 degrees advanced


retard 2 degrees per 50 shot


Is that new zex perimeter plate worth looking into?


apparenty yea...eric gained a nice bit of power on the dyno with one

if u gotta retard ur timing 6degrees for a 150shot wont ur engine run like shit till u use the nos?

[Sig]

it will be a little sluggish, but not too bad

[Daniel Doerksen]

could u buy sum electronics that nock the timing back 6 degrees whne u hit the nitrous?

[Sig]

yes, an msd digital 6 plus will pull out however many degrees you want when it detects 12 volts, so you could wire it up to the solenoid, and then it would pull out the timing when the solenoid opens.

[Daniel Doerksen]

that would be the way to go then :D

[budless]

mallorys diggy box has more options and can be had for 300 plus taxes thats the way i went it works awsome

[Wagonized]

yes, an msd digital 6 plus will pull out however many degrees you want when it detects 12 volts, so you could wire it up to the solenoid, and then it would pull out the timing when the solenoid opens.


yea ive got that msd digital 6 and its perfect

[Dunout]

so far i know im doing my exhaust, carb, distributor and ignition system

[Jessev]

so far i know im doing my exhaust, carb, distributor and ignition system

fuel injection* ivan u know u waaannnnttt it

[Dunout]

if i do go injected i want an lt1 in my car i dont get all the stuff to tune i would be at adams shop everyday getting tuned lol if i had an lt1

[allpontiacs]

FI is a waste if you're building for power and not DD'ing. If it's already there, great, but I get the impression Ivan just wants to go fast. Keep the carb (well not the heap you have but A carb, Holley or Demon is best). Much cheaper in every way, and it'll definetely make you go fast.

[383TA]

you dont gain much power with fi, but its more tuneable. Most turbo guys run fi for this reason.


you'll see big budget dragcars some are FI and some are carb.

[Wagonized]

FI is a waste if you're building for power and not DD'ing. If it's already there, great, but I get the impression Ivan just wants to go fast. Keep the carb (well not the heap you have but A carb, Holley or Demon is best). Much cheaper in every way, and it'll definetely make you go fast.


go with a holley...demon is shit

[Daniel Doerksen]

hoenestly demon is better, but by an amount that makes know difference, they arnt "shit" they are the same design as a holley, on with a few modifications that make it easyier to tune, etc. i got my demon for a grad pressent, if that didnt happen id say go holley, becuase of price,

[allpontiacs]

Demons have had manufacturing issues which Holley did not, but that may have all been ironed out by now. Really, a Demon is just a "prettier" Holley, there really isn't even a difference in tunability. Sure, a lower end Demon comes with sight glasses in the float bowl and such, but you can get the same stuff in a higher end Holley that costs the same...so really, it's all advertising.

[383TA]

demons used to be better when they first came out with them, but now theyre mass produced and theres stories od finding metal filings in brend new carbs.

[Wagonized]

hoenestly demon is better, but by an amount that makes know difference, they arnt "shit" they are the same design as a holley, on with a few modifications that make it easyier to tune, etc. i got my demon for a grad pressent, if that didnt happen id say go holley, becuase of price,*



demon is the same basically as a holley just made with cheaper inferior materials.

[Daniel Doerksen]

sure dude, prove it and i will believe u

[Daniel Doerksen]

found sum stats,

http://www.corvettefaq.com/c3/carbcomparo.htm

TQ.......................HP.........
347 @ 4200 ... 361 @ 6100 ... Holley 4777 650 Carb Shop
338 @ 4400 ... 363 @ 6100 ... Speed Demon 650
336 @ 4000 ... 360 @ 6100 ... Holley 750 3310 JET Perf.
TQ .................HP same +/-1
343 @ 5000 ... 349 @ 6000 ... Q-J JET Perf. ADAPTER used.
328 @ 4800 ... 351 @ 6100 ... Holley 600
329 @ 3900 ... 351 @ 6100 ... Edelbrock 600 1405
327 @ 4000 ... 350 @ 6100 ... Edelbrock 750 1407

seems like holley took it on torque but lost it on hp, more torque then hp tho

the damn interents to slow to look for more facts its kinda a waste, seems like the speed demon is people preference, negatives and the metal filings found in the demons that need to be clean pre to operation, seems like there are alot more holey lovers then demon lovers but there are allot more holleys then demons, so it should be expected, but it seems liek most shops and magaizines preferr demons,

soooo w/e, i like my speed demon, but i havent had a holly when i get my gtech maybe ill spend the time and figure out whihc is better? ::)

[Wagonized]

sure dude, prove it and i will believe u

berkenbos bought a brand new demon and it started leaking from the fuel bowls after being run for like 30 minutes.

blake in the blake malibu had a similar problem.

and countless other guys all over the world.

take a walk around the track next year and peak under the hoods of quicker cars....you hardly ever see a demon carb under there cause they're unreliable.

carbs are all about tuning. you can make a quadrajet outperform a dominator if you set it up accordingly

[79 Z28]

sure dude, prove it and i will believe u

berkenbos bought a brand new demon and it started leaking from the fuel bowls after being run for like 30 minutes.

blake in the blake malibu had a similar problem.

and countless other guys all over the world.

take a walk around the track next year and peak under the hoods of quicker cars....you hardly ever see a demon carb under there cause they're unreliable.

carbs are all about tuning. you can make a quadrajet outperform a dominator if you set it up accordingly
pros, billet baseplate and parts, uses all holley parts for interchangability, easy tune out of box. cons, leaky pos with avg performance. all stock carbs are crap though. its all about the modified 8)

[SkyGuy@BishopSales]

boo Nitrous..

[79 Z28]

boo Nitrous..
real men spray :sanchez:

[SkyGuy@BishopSales]

real men get blown ;)

[79 Z28]

real men get blown ;)
nitrous is the sex though, intercourse boy :sanchez:

[SkyGuy@BishopSales]

its like intercourse with a dirty chick.
Its good at the time, but you know your gonna get some nasty shit in the end.

[79 Z28]

its like intercourse with a dirty chick.
Its good at the time, but you know your gonna get some nasty shit in the end.
its the most fun :D changing pistons like sparkplugs is no big deal anyhow lol

[kness_30]

PS lovin the dp nitrous small block i think i can see myself lol not really cause if so im like a cm tall

[79 Z28]

PS lovin the dp nitrous small block i think i can see myself lol not really cause if so im like a cm tall
yea, its a minty picture :D

[budless]

just do it.....nitrous

[SkyGuy@BishopSales]

PS lovin the dp nitrous small block i think i can see myself lol not really cause if so im like a cm tall
yea, its a minty picture :D


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