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Bristol
03-01-2004, 12:34 PM
I need to find someone familiar with chip burning for third gen camaros. Im looking for someone local to attend a dyno run to do some dyno tuning. If anyone knows anyone please email me at bristol62@hotmail.com . Thanks.
IROC-Z
03-05-2004, 01:32 AM
you gunna run it at SNK's
I'm gunna tune mine there too
Bristol
03-05-2004, 03:18 PM
Yup. Just gotta get someone familiar to burn my chips after the 3.73s get installed. Let me know when your tuning your LT1 on the dyno. Id like to see its pulls
IROC-Z
03-08-2004, 10:25 AM
Yup. Just gotta get someone familiar to burn my chips after the 3.73s get installed. Let me know when your tuning your LT1 on the dyno. Id like to see its pulls
I will for sure, it won't be till at least the end of May though
Blue89rs
03-17-2004, 12:30 PM
I have a PROM burner here at work that I'm going to begin toying with. I've been through diyefi but can't seem to find pre-played with image to try out.
Blue89rs
05-19-2004, 03:03 PM
Does anyone have any source for PROM burning? I need to have one done.
93formula
05-21-2004, 08:21 PM
i know someone but he lives in prince george.
check on thirdgen.org for people in this area, im pretty sure there are people out there that have this, i think (ken)383iroc on cz28 knows someone.
Glenn91L98GTA
11-01-2004, 02:30 PM
Yeah, I can burn eproms. I even come with references.
I am the same Glenn91L98GTA that is a moderator on the DIY Prom Board at www.thirdgen.org
V6s are really responsive to tuning as their spark curve is so mild. The big decision is the grade of gas you want to burn.
E-mail me for more information.
Bristol
11-01-2004, 03:23 PM
Let me finish my Stealthram swap...Ill be in touch. PM with prices. There is a guy locally that does it and is very reputable but Ive had difficulty catching him when hes had free time.
Glenn91L98GTA
11-01-2004, 08:10 PM
I've done a few bins on cars with StealthRams and SD. Nice intake, and a great "bang for the buck". You will really like the TQ characteristics of the StealthRam. Nice and flat.
What cam are you planning on using? (Plus what other mods).
Bristol
11-01-2004, 10:07 PM
Accel 58mm throttlebody
Edelbrock Performer 64cc aluminum heads
Crane gold 1.6 roller rockers
MSD distributor, blaster coil and 6AL
Edelbrock TES headers
Holley Stealth Ram with AFPR
Accel 24lb injectors
Comp Cams hydraulic roller 08-305-8
9.8:1 compression
soon to be 3.73s
TH 700-R4 with 2600rpm stall
etc etc. etc.
Nothing special just an okay daily driver.
Glenn91L98GTA
11-02-2004, 06:50 AM
Ah, that's the new Comp grind 220/230 with the wider LSA 114. Any particular reason for chosing that grind? I know that a few guys Comp Cams talked them out of the narrower 112 or 110 grinds because of "computer issues". But, in my opinion, if the programmer knows what he's doing, it's not a big deal.
With that grind you can stick in your original memcal and the car should be "driveable" so you can "limp around". You wouldn't want to drive around like that forever. Defiinitely a prom will make a world of difference for WOT performance - part throttle, the O2 sensor will do a lot for "correction".
People always forget that the O2 sensor does a lot to correct a lot of "sins" for part-throttle driving on "less than optimal" VE tables. Unfortunately, unless you want to get into eprom burning in a serious way, most guys just live with the "rough" ve table (thought they may not know it) and get the eprom modified for idle and WOT. Now you know the reality of what people do (more like don't do) to the VE Tables on SD Cars.
Your set up will look a very simialr to this
Glenn91L98GTA
11-02-2004, 06:56 AM
This is the shape your VE table should look like with your mods.
EDIT:
Sorry I tried to post a couple of pictures to show you what the shapes are, but the "upload folder" area of this site is full and the picture is already compressed down to 33kb.
The site needs to allocate more space to upload folder.
As I am the moderator on the DIY Prom Board on TGO, I have posted the graphs over there for you to view.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthread.php?s=&postid=2063549#post2063549
I hope this helps. Remember, its the Upper VE Table that is the most important, and that is what I have posted. Believe it or not, the lower VE Table (idle - 1,600 rpm) is really not that important except for idle. From "off idle to 1,600 rpm", the O2 sensor does wonders in compensating. Though your eyes can get a bit "watery" when start a car with a "rough cam" while still cold (until you fine tune the lower VE Table...which few people do .... expect those guys with the equipment and on their own cars).
Just teaching you some of the tuning tricks of the business and letting people know what REALLY is often done inside.
Bristol
11-02-2004, 11:14 AM
No real reason for the cam selection. The price was right and was told it would work for what I wanted and that 114 LSA will create an EGR effect for my now missing EGR. I talked to a few guys familiar with tuning and they said it isnt really an issue when you tune it properly. With my Edelbrock TPI setup the car ran really rich and felt as though it was bogging at times. Definetly issues with idle ;D . I am definetly getting a tune....as soon as she runs. I have easy access to dyno time and a datalogger as well. On a side note though....what does VE stand for? LOL. Im not sure if you are interested in tuning for $$$ but me and my buddy Ken (( 383CID T56 that put down 367rwhp running really rich in the mid 9s to low 10s)) are desperate for a tuner who really knows how to tune.
http://www.americansportscardesigns.com/customers/images/KenMoreira.jpg
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