the Zs got head....

[CamaroGirl]

Finally my car can breathe now!!! i had a tough time deciding true duals or the ORY, but meh, it's cheaper to go this way...apparently i can sell my cats for like, 70 a piece...anyone ever heard of that?

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v204/238/41/515940527/n515940527_652531_7581.jpg
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425107690.jpg?1203696780
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425107686.jpg?1203696775

[matt]

please tell me you know the difference between a head and header...

[chevyman]

I thought you were doing true duals??

[CamaroGirl]

please tell me you know the difference between a head and header...

OBVIOUSLY...
i just thot it was a catchy thread title
got your attention didnt it?

[Jessev]

I thought you were doing true duals??

read the post and stop trying to win her back with memories

[steveo]

are those pacesetters or what?

let us know how the install goes... i'll be doing the same thing soon

[Bing]

shiny

my hookers aren't shiny any more

[Dunout]

looks expensive !

[CamaroGirl]

are those pacesetters or what?

let us know how the install goes... i'll be doing the same thing soon

yepp, i got the ones with the emmisions hookups tho, im too lazy to delete the air and egr, i plan on installing them on the 8th, sooo ill def let you know!

apparently even with the coating on them, you should still spray some hi temp paint as the coating will come off sooner than later..

[CamaroGirl]

looks expensive !

actually they werent as bad as i thot...385 for the headers and 115 for the y, i got an msd cap and rotor also cuz my optis working fine...and the bosch rep gave me a set of plugs for her too for free!!

[steveo]

i didn't know pacesetter had good longtubes for camaros with air/egr tubes, they list them as 'offroad use only' on their site

i've only ever seen their cheap shit lineup of longtubes with emissions crap

what's the part number?

[CamaroGirl]

72c-2237
ORY is 82-1161

they only mean that b/c of the cat delete...dont go midtubes tho, not worth the install, money, or power...
apparently pacesetter makes great fbod headers, well worth the money and quality is decent

[Dunout]

looks expensive !

i got an msd cap and rotor also cuz my optis working fine...

now ussaly if it is not broken, then why would u fix it ?

[CamaroGirl]

b/c im already under the car, i dont get a whole lot of chances to work on it as i dont have acces to a hoist, plus ive had the car for almost 3 years now and the plugs, wires and for all i know the cap and rotor hasnt been done, so it cant hurt it..

[matt]

fixing things before they have a chance to break?! Are you sure you own a camaro?!

[79 Z28]

are those pacesetters or what?

let us know how the install goes... i'll be doing the same thing soon

yepp, i got the ones with the emmisions hookups tho, im too lazy to delete the air and egr, i plan on installing them on the 8th, sooo ill def let you know!

apparently even with the coating on them, you should still spray some hi temp paint as the coating will come off sooner than later..
thats the worst you can do, its ceramic coated is it not? it wont come off. you'll just make a mess.

[Dunout]

branda is in need of some SHOP !!

[CamaroGirl]

are those pacesetters or what?

let us know how the install goes... i'll be doing the same thing soon

yepp, i got the ones with the emmisions hookups tho, im too lazy to delete the air and egr, i plan on installing them on the 8th, sooo ill def let you know!

apparently even with the coating on them, you should still spray some hi temp paint as the coating will come off sooner than later..
thats the worst you can do, its ceramic coated is it not? it wont come off. you'll just make a mess.

kkk well i was just on z28.com and thats what they were doing, cuz apparently buddy bought the same headers i did and they started to chip after 3 months...i honestly dont want to, but if theyre gonna chip then why not

[Jessev]

if the ceramic comes off something went wrong

[79 Z28]

are those pacesetters or what?

let us know how the install goes... i'll be doing the same thing soon

yepp, i got the ones with the emmisions hookups tho, im too lazy to delete the air and egr, i plan on installing them on the 8th, sooo ill def let you know!

apparently even with the coating on them, you should still spray some hi temp paint as the coating will come off sooner than later..
thats the worst you can do, its ceramic coated is it not? it wont come off. you'll just make a mess.

kkk well i was just on z28.com and thats what they were doing, cuz apparently buddy bought the same headers i did and they started to chip after 3 months...i honestly dont want to, but if theyre gonna chip then why not
ive spayed my 79 and made the exh way hotter then any n/a, and the ceramic didnt come off. it will be fine. you might have to take some scotchbrite pads and some metal polish after a while to bring the luster back but thats it.

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

im just gonna say what everyones thinking

will the y-pipe fit in your ass and gina at the same time

[ridez]

fixing things before they have a chance to break?! Are you sure you own a camaro?!


preventative maintenance!!!

[Dizzle]

msd stuff is garbage, the contacts on my msd cap were fucked after 10k km.
I'd never buy MSD stuff again.

[CamaroGirl]

im just gonna say what everyones thinking

will the y-pipe fit in your ass and gina at the same time

i dunno rob, LETS SEE

[CamaroGirl]

msd stuff is garbage, the contacts on my msd cap were fucked after 10k km.
I'd never buy MSD stuff again.

seriously? ive never had any complaints and i sell a few of them..maybe bad batch? is that possible?

[matt]

seriously? ive never had any complaints and i sell a few of them..maybe bad batch? is that possible?


i've never had a problem with msd either (more form a usage point of view than a selling, though :P)

[79 Z28]

msd stuff is garbage, the contacts on my msd cap were fucked after 10k km.
I'd never buy MSD stuff again.
msd makes the best stuff. most used in racing, sure theres not another reason why it failed?

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

im just gonna say what everyones thinking

will the y-pipe fit in your ass and gina at the same time

i dunno rob, LETS SEE


take your time and use lots of lube, be carful, and have fun with it

[Dunout]

msd stuff is garbage, the contacts on my msd cap were fucked after 10k km.
I'd never buy MSD stuff again.
msd makes the best stuff. most used in racing, sure theres not another reason why it failed?


must of put it in wrong

[CamaroGirl]

im just gonna say what everyones thinking

will the y-pipe fit in your ass and gina at the same time

i dunno rob, LETS SEE


take your time and use lots of lube, be carful, and have fun with it

ill let you know how it goes

[drumhawk]

Finally my car can breathe now!!! i had a tough time deciding true duals or the ORY, but meh, it's cheaper to go this way...apparently i can sell my cats for like, 70 a piece...anyone ever heard of that?

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v204/238/41/515940527/n515940527_652531_7581.jpg
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425107690.jpg?1203696780
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425107686.jpg?1203696775
Pacesetters are great bang for the buck, I had a ride in Camaro Chris's modded 420rwhp 4th gen with Pacesetters and it sounded wicked. Brenda's room almost looks like mine with new mods, musical instruments and die-cast cars all over the place lol.

[Dizzle]

msd stuff is garbage, the contacts on my msd cap were fucked after 10k km.
I'd never buy MSD stuff again.
msd makes the best stuff. most used in racing, sure theres not another reason why it failed?


maybe its not meant for a daily driver? Generally things with 0 resistance wear out super fast. Ivan you're an idiot.

[Dizzle]

Finally my car can breathe now!!! i had a tough time deciding true duals or the ORY, but meh, it's cheaper to go this way...apparently i can sell my cats for like, 70 a piece...anyone ever heard of that?

Pacesetters are great bang for the buck, I had a ride in Camaro Chris's modded 420rwhp 4th gen with Pacesetters and it sounded wicked. Brenda's room almost looks like mine with new mods, musical instruments and die-cast cars all over the place lol.

you two are made for each other, give her a ring now!

[89vert]

msd stuff is garbage, the contacts on my msd cap were fucked after 10k km.
I'd never buy MSD stuff again.
msd makes the best stuff. most used in racing, sure theres not another reason why it failed?


maybe its not meant for a daily driver? Generally things with 0 resistance wear out super fast. Ivan you're an idiot.


exactly,
MSD is good stuff but not the best for a daily driver,

I find MSD caps, rotors and wire wear out super fast,

I think I only got a year out of my last MSD cap

[89vert]

race breed performance parts aren't always the best for a DD

[Dunout]

Finally my car can breathe now!!! i had a tough time deciding true duals or the ORY, but meh, it's cheaper to go this way...apparently i can sell my cats for like, 70 a piece...anyone ever heard of that?

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v204/238/41/515940527/n515940527_652531_7581.jpg
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425107690.jpg?1203696780
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425107686.jpg?1203696775
Pacesetters are great bang for the buck, I had a ride in Camaro Chris's modded 420rwhp 4th gen with Pacesetters and it sounded wicked. Brenda's room almost looks like mine with new mods, musical instruments and die-cast cars all over the place lol.


mabe she is at your house

dan STUPID ! lol

[CamaroGirl]

Finally my car can breathe now!!! i had a tough time deciding true duals or the ORY, but meh, it's cheaper to go this way...apparently i can sell my cats for like, 70 a piece...anyone ever heard of that?

Pacesetters are great bang for the buck, I had a ride in Camaro Chris's modded 420rwhp 4th gen with Pacesetters and it sounded wicked. Brenda's room almost looks like mine with new mods, musical instruments and die-cast cars all over the place lol.

you two are made for each other, give her a ring now!

k ew.
thats actually my boyfriends living room





msd stuff is garbage, the contacts on my msd cap were fucked after 10k km.
I'd never buy MSD stuff again.
msd makes the best stuff. most used in racing, sure theres not another reason why it failed?


maybe its not meant for a daily driver? Generally things with 0 resistance wear out super fast. Ivan you're an idiot.


exactly,
MSD is good stuff but not the best for a daily driver,

I find MSD caps, rotors and wire wear out super fast,

I think I only got a year out of my last MSD cap

actually i only live about 2 blocks away from work so ive been walking ever since i parked the car 5 months back, im insuring it tomorrow but im still gonna walk most of the time, i wont be driving it as much as i used to thats for sure...
with the $$ saved from gas ill get these paid off and hopefully have enough leftover for a mainland trip :D

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

good i can show you my new handcuffs

[CamaroGirl]

did someone say handcuffs

[matt]

latex body suit

[IROC-Z]

Painting over ceramic coating = stupid, don't do it

MSD = JUNK!!! Only good for race applications and their Opti parts fail constantly, I've had two MSD opti units that were bad right out of the box. I would never run and opti unless its OEM GM.

Why get the emissions tubes on the headers when their role is to pump air into the exhaust to warm up the cat when the engine is cold only?? Air tubes aren't even needed to pass aircare on a car, they're only there to warm the cat up faster. I've installed several sets of pacesetters and all I got to say is if you don't have a hoist and aren't prepared to do a lot of work then get someone to install them. You need to remove the steering shaft, all the air tubes and crack the engine mount and lift the engine up to get the headers in. Some heat tape on the rear brake lines on the driver side of the car is a good idea too.

[iroc22]

so the Accel optis are bad too? I need to replace mine and there's only 3 options, MSD, Accel and Delco. Delco appears to be the cheapest, there's units on ebay for $160ish

[CamaroGirl]

Painting over ceramic coating = stupid, don't do it

MSD = JUNK!!! Only good for race applications and their Opti parts fail constantly, I've had two MSD opti units that were bad right out of the box. I would never run and opti unless its OEM GM.

Why get the emissions tubes on the headers when their role is to pump air into the exhaust to warm up the cat when the engine is cold only?? Air tubes aren't even needed to pass aircare on a car, they're only there to warm the cat up faster. I've installed several sets of pacesetters and all I got to say is if you don't have a hoist and aren't prepared to do a lot of work then get someone to install them. You need to remove the steering shaft, all the air tubes and crack the engine mount and lift the engine up to get the headers in. Some heat tape on the rear brake lines on the driver side of the car is a good idea too.

yea i wasnt sure about that whole painting ceramic thing tho, i dunno why those guys said to do so...
im totally prepared for alot of work, im doing this for the experience, i will have help obviously
it probably is pointless to get the ones with the emissions hookups, but at the time i ordered them i was under the impression that the egr and air delete was difficult, im aware now it would have been the better route, but its a little late for that now...
also i was going to just order an delco opti but like i said i havent really had problems with it so i just wanted to get a cap and rotor for tune up purposes, im already doing the wires with an aurora set and platinum plugs, so it cant hurt it to do the c&r...that and the msd setup is wayyy cheaper than the oem niehoff shit lordco sells...
if the opti goes, than it was probably on its way out anyway, then ill get a new one, i dont like it when the car breaks down, but i do like working on it so i like the opportunity i guess

[89vert]

Painting over ceramic coating = stupid, don't do it

MSD = JUNK!!! Only good for race applications and their Opti parts fail constantly, I've had two MSD opti units that were bad right out of the box. I would never run and opti unless its OEM GM.

Why get the emissions tubes on the headers when their role is to pump air into the exhaust to warm up the cat when the engine is cold only?? Air tubes aren't even needed to pass aircare on a car, they're only there to warm the cat up faster. I've installed several sets of pacesetters and all I got to say is if you don't have a hoist and aren't prepared to do a lot of work then get someone to install them. You need to remove the steering shaft, all the air tubes and crack the engine mount and lift the engine up to get the headers in. Some heat tape on the rear brake lines on the driver side of the car is a good idea too.


airtubes are useless at the header, but when you bypass the diverter valve and pump in right to the cat it gets cooking hot and increases oxygen percentage in the exhaust,
good way to pass aircare :D

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

i thought this thread was about assholes

[IROC-Z]

so the Accel optis are bad too? I need to replace mine and there's only 3 options, MSD, Accel and Delco. Delco appears to be the cheapest, there's units on ebay for $160ish


I haven't heard of many problems with the accel ones but I still say OEM is the way to go. Buy a GM one from GMpartsdirect.com

[89vert]

so will I be changing the MSD opti I just put on my dads car?

[steveo]

so will I be changing the MSD opti I just put on my dads car?


they just have a higher failure rate than the gm optis, it isnt' garunteed to die right away

my dad's TA had an msd opti, lasted for nearly years of hard use then exploded like a hand grenade (literally. blew the water pump off and stuck a hole in the radiator)

[79 Z28]

blew the water pump off? :-\

[steveo]

was some unknown aftermarket aluminum waterpump the shop chucked on when they changed the opti

it blew right off, and split it nearly in half

to this day, i can't really figure out how electrical energy would make something explode like that, my theory is something perverse must have happened with the opti vent and fuel got into it, or something like that

[90_383]

??? you get pics of this ?

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

yeah my distributer blew my car across the portman into a parked car too

[iroc22]

Isnt this an OEM GM? http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160212864577&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006

[Bing]

that guy sold a lot of stuff to Africa.

[iroc22]

Yeah I don't actually think it's OEM GM even though it says it is. It's way too cheap and there's no picture of a box or whatever, seems to be unreliable

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

hows your butthole camarogirl, and how big is chevymans penis

plz k thx ttyl

[CamaroGirl]

its pretty tight, rob, pretty tight...
and i dont comment on things i cant see

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

you sloot

[Dunout]

sloot is right lol

[chevyman]

its pretty tight, rob, pretty tight...
and i dont comment on things i cant see
your not allowed to see it anymore...hahahaha thats fucked robin beer camaro

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

hey chevyman i think you left a shirt at brendas cause i saw it when i was there last night

[Captain Morgan]

hey chevyman i think you left a shirt at brendas cause i saw it when i was there last night


he'll say it shrunk in the wash but we all know it came from gap kids

[chevyman]

hey chevyman i think you left a shirt at brendas cause i saw it when i was there last night
right on, u think your bothering me but really, I don't give a shit

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

i wouldnt lie to you bro, so i might as well tell you

i also wiped my dick on it

[CamaroGirl]

ANYWAYS...
i got the headers on yesterday, took the better part of the day, about 9 hours with 3 of us and a hoist...not bad of a job i must say, only problem we had was getting the passenger side in, so we jacked the engine up a few inches, and then we got it...also changed the plugs..decided not to do the cap and rotor b/c of the location and like i said, im not having any opti problems yet...when the time comes i'll get a new acdelco unit. i'm getting aurora to custom make me an lt1 wire set so i route them over the valve covers too...
the pacesetter instructions were good, but not specific... i found a great writeup on z28.com tho and that helped a bunch
http://z28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100225

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

you vagina reminds me of red lobster

[Dunout]

pics!

[79 Z28]

see, anyone who thinks its a simple job just doesnt get it lol

[chevyman]

vids!

[CamaroGirl]

see, anyone who thinks its a simple job just doesnt get it lol

i didnt say simple jason!!! i said i dont think it was as difficult as everyone said it was! keep in mind there were 3 of us doing this...we had a hoist, air tools, everything...
i wanna do it again, i had fun!

[CamaroGirl]

pics!

http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425114496.jpg?1205118929
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425114503.jpg?1205119172
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425114501.jpg?1205119143
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/12425114498.jpg?1205119055

[CamaroGirl]

you vagina reminds me of red lobster

red lobsters kinda good..i like their crab cakes... :D

[Bing]

that looks spacious

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

more specifically the garlic butter

[chevyman]

are you still running the magaflow?How does she sound?must bark pretty good now

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

shes not gonna let you put your dick around her mouth anymore so just stop

[chevyman]

ur a funny guy

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

i do choreography for the 'you are not the father' dances

[chevyman]

lol

[Dunout]

i do choreography for the 'you are not the father' dances

thats a good dance

[90_383]

its like the safety dance

[Bing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg

love the 80's

[iroc22]

maury povich

[Dizzle]

hey chevyman i think you left a shirt at brendas cause i saw it when i was there last night
right on, u think your bothering me but really, I don't give a shit

LOL

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

me and dan would make long red haired babies

[79 Z28]

see, anyone who thinks its a simple job just doesnt get it lol

i didnt say simple jason!!! i said i dont think it was as difficult as everyone said it was! keep in mind there were 3 of us doing this...we had a hoist, air tools, everything...
i wanna do it again, i had fun!
i wasn't referring to you....

[iroc22]

was some unknown aftermarket aluminum waterpump the shop chucked on when they changed the opti

it blew right off, and split it nearly in half

to this day, i can't really figure out how electrical energy would make something explode like that, my theory is something perverse must have happened with the opti vent and fuel got into it, or something like that

I did some research into the Opti units and apparently the first version MSD's were designed like the Delco units and if the end user didn't properly set up the rotor, it would fly apart after awhile, causing the units to grenade. Apparently the new second gen MSD's have cured this problem and instead of copying the Delco units, they improved the design the second time around.

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

sorry guys this thread needs to get back on topic, of chevymans ability of taking anal and cmarogirls ability of giving it

[CamaroGirl]

you mean YOUR ability of giving it

[383_SS]

or your ability of taking it

[CamaroGirl]

gladly, just as long as its on the hood of a car

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

you mean YOUR ability of giving it

its true but im not cocky about it