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skidmark
10-29-2008, 09:17 PM
Last week's column looked at the 24 hour prohibition from driving for all drivers who had a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 50 mg% or higher and were either the driver of or who had care and control of a vehicle on a highway or industrial road. This week we'll look at a special suspension that applies to drivers who are in the Graduated Licensing Program (GLP). These drivers are subject to a condition of their license that prohibits them from having alcohol in their body while they are driving or in care and control.

If a police officer believes that these drivers have any alcohol in their body, they proceed in the same manner as the 24 hour prohibition, but must use an Approved Screening Device (ASD) to test the driver's breath. If the ASD analysis indicates that the new driver has a positive BAC that is not over 50 mg% then the officer may suspend the new driver's license for 12 hours. The suspension cannot be given by admission or observation alone as is the case with a 24 hour prohibition.

There is no provision in the Motor Vehicle Act to impound the vehicle of a new driver who has been suspended for 12 hours.

A single 12 hour suspension or 24 hour prohibition will bring further consequences for the new driver. The Superintendent of Motor Vehicles will take action in the form of a driving prohibition for a period of 1 to 3 months. The prohibition period increases if the driver incurs another prohibition or suspension. In addition, a new driver must be suspension or prohibition free for a period of two years in order to take the test to obtain a full privilege driver's license.

The World Health Organization states that alcohol and driving without seat belts remain key factors in young driver crashes and resulting deaths and injuries. While not all drivers in the GLP are young drivers the 12 hour suspension is another tool to sanction those who choose to drink and drive. Should it be extended to apply to all drivers in B.C.?

Reference Links (http://www.drivesmartbc.ca/impaired-driving/12-hour-suspensions)

Jessev
10-30-2008, 12:25 PM
no! just booked my class 5 test this morning. do you honestly believe the GLP is worth it? and worth making it stricter by the year?

skidmark
11-02-2008, 08:35 AM
Well, you can't legislate against stupidity. Sometimes bad thing happen because of the choices people make regardless of the laws.

As I understand it, the GLP has reduced death and injury of new drivers, and I'm all for that.

Cedric Hughes is a lawyer who writes on traffic issues:

"A detailed interim evaluation of the effectiveness of these changes is reported on the ICBC website at http://www.icbc.com/library/glp_eval.asp Two noteworthy items in this report are, first, that approved driving training certification has apparently not produced the expected dramatic reduction in crashes. Secondly, that, “despite a slight reduction in casualty crash rates, the GLP Novice stage has contributed little to the overall reduction observed in the new driver crash involvement rate of GLP drivers. Instead, it is likely that the primary factor contributing to the observed reduction is the extended Learner stage associated with GLP (Section 5.6.3).

However, even small improvements should be accepted with gratitude."

Jessev
11-02-2008, 04:53 PM
but it does nothing to actually teach people how to drive!! its just a money grab and a way to spot targets on the road. from what i understand the wait time isn't even reduced for taking young driver of canada like it used to be. that's absolute bullshit. driving classes need to be made worthwile and maybe even mandatory. that would go a hell of a lot further than putting an N on the back of your car.

skidmark
11-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Why is it a money grab?

It is certainly harder to pass than when I took the test, so I expect that we need better drivers to be able to pass....

mongoose
11-05-2008, 10:21 PM
costs more to insure... paying for tests and licenses.. etc.

Jessev
11-06-2008, 12:36 PM
not to mention i don't know a single person that gives a shit about how many passengers are in their car. so that's an easy ticket. no N up, etc etc. a whole new league of tickets targeting young drivers. i can't site any source, but i'd be willing to bet less young people go through with disputing a ticket than older people, either because they don't know how or are scared to go to court.

ThePhoenix
11-06-2008, 03:47 PM
i can't site any source, but i'd be willing to bet less young people go through with disputing a ticket than older people, either because they don't know how or are scared to go to court.

I agree 100%. It takes experience and hearing from other people to know how to do things like going to court.

79 Z28
11-06-2008, 03:59 PM
as someone who had to go through this driver licensing program and now is a roadstar with a class 5, i agree its a flawed system. tougher punishment and extended restrictions arent going to stop or significantly slow down accidents and injuries, proper training and education will. id rather see raised driving age law to 17 and a training system thats mandatory other then the GLP. it is a money grab for the gov't, like jesse stated, i agree. experience makes for a better driver, not a N sign and tickets and points and suspensions that keep you in the program for a long time.

Bing
11-06-2008, 04:49 PM
a mandatory training system would be nice

steveo
11-08-2008, 10:24 AM
almost everyone drives... it's one of the most critical skills.. i don't understand why the public school system is not involved in driver training

ThePhoenix
11-09-2008, 11:56 AM
^because that would cost too much.

Schools teach you how to learn and prepare you for university.

Driving is beyond the the boundaries of their purpose.

skidmark
11-12-2008, 08:31 PM
not to mention i don't know a single person that gives a shit about how many passengers are in their car. so that's an easy ticket. no N up, etc etc. a whole new league of tickets targeting young drivers. i can't site any source, but i'd be willing to bet less young people go through with disputing a ticket than older people, either because they don't know how or are scared to go to court.

Actually, at least in my experience, the mix of disputants in traffic court is much the same as the cross section of people who receive them.