NEW DRIVER AND HIS CAMARO NEEDING HELP!!

[87Camaro]

ok. i just got a 1987 Chevy Camaro..its a 2.8L :-[ ..auto, nice clean car with only 120oookm. old lady driven before.
anyways i need to do some mods for sure..since im new to the sence of camaro's and its my first car..wat do u guys think i should for some of the mods?

thanks for all the help ;D

[Vulcan]

first suggestion, call up the local scrap yard and get them to take the car away, after that buy a camaro with a v8

[Vulcan]

or at least a v6 with a stick

[Mr. TroPiCal]

hey that's not nice


i say just drop a v8 in it ;D

[79 Z28]

definately hold off on the engine mods for now, you can do other things to the car but save for a v8 swap 8)

[87Camaro]

definately hold off on the engine mods for now, you can do other things to the car but save for a v8 swap 8)
how much would an engine swap be?? and would i have to do anything to the car for it to handle the engine?? for the time wat should the other mods be for the car?? im defently getting new tires and rims soon! ;D

[Drakar]

Do up your suspension first, get it turning like the car is on rails, then you'll have a car that is just ready for a V8.

Any V8 Swap will be made easier with a complete Donor car .... and suprise so many on this site have just that ;D

do out the suspension and save cash for V8 like others have said.

[87Camaro]

Do up your suspension first, get it turning like the car is on rails, then you'll have a car that is just ready for a V8.

Any V8 Swap will be made easier with a complete Donor car .... and suprise so many on this site have just that ;D

do out the suspension and save cash for V8 like others have said.
how much would a V8 engine swap be for the engine?
and wats a donor car :-[ :-[

[79 Z28]

why dont you sign up an account buddy :)

[87Camaro]

why dont you sign up an account buddy :)
i am right now ;D
but other mods should i do to the car before i put a V8 in?? and the guy have the car like its on rails?? ??? he said "get it turning like the car is on rails"
and wat is a donor car?? :-[ i feel so stupid asking these questions.
and how should a engine cost?????

[Vulcan]

the term "the car handles like its on rails" means that the suspention is really fucking hard, so it handles really well (like its on rails)...

A donor car is one which is used to donate parts to your other car, same as a donor corpse is used to donate organs to living humans...

as for how much should an engine cost, well it shouldn't cost anything but unfortunatly it does. The price will vary depending on whick block you go with (305 or 350) as well as the condition (new or used) and the parts inside it. check the for sale section, or the buy and sell. that should give you a good start

[formula mark]

Hmmm ,if you dont know what a donor car is, me thinks a v8 swap is a wee bit beyond your automotive skill.

Dont bother upgrading the 2.8, its a turd, jus buy a v8 car.

[Vulcan]

Hmmm ,if you dont know what a donor car is, me thinks a v8 swap is a wee bit beyond your automotive skill.

Dont bother upgrading the 2.8, its a turd, jus buy a v8 car.


right back to what i was saying b4

[eltonz88ragtop]

well u can always just do exterior mods, tint the window, maybe change the ground fx to the newer ones and do suspension then find a running v8 and get someone to drop it in for you. or fix up this car and try and resell it and see if you get a bit more and then buy a crappy thirdgen with a v8 in it and build itup!\

either way welcome to the site and good luck!

[Glenn91L98GTA]

Vulcan's suggestion of selling your V6 car and getting a V8 car is actually a very good suggestion and the most practical.

The amount of money you are going to spend to upgrade a V6 car (because EVERYTHING needs to be changed), is cost prohibitative. And it is NOT an easy swap either. Starting with a V8 car makes life SO MUCH EASIER.

Continue to drive you good running V6 car, but look for a good V8 car with a burnt out engine and swap in a 350 (or bigger) SBC.

If you are HELL BENT on keeping your V6, the only good swap is a 3.4 from either a 4th Gen Camaro or from GM. You just swap the electronics. You could also swap a cam into the engine (there are a few for the 60* V6). But, for all the money you will spend on a 3.4 (unless you find one in a wrecking yard cheap), you will still get spanked by every V8 Camaro, Firebird or Mustang and end up spending damn near the same as if you just bought a Thirdgen F-body with a burnt out 305 and swapped in a fresh 350.

[79 Z28]

i got a 3.4L v6 for sale out of a 1994 camaro, it has 101k and its 800 + tax :)

[Vulcan]

I'll have an Olds 307 cid V8 w/auto tranny (not sure which one it is exactly, but its got OD) and possibly a rear diff (no clue what ratio) for sale early next year... it'll be really cheap, as in the price of a core, and it only has 92,000 original k's on it

[Blue89rs]

Okay, forget them for a second and get back on track ;D

Things I've done to mine; throttle body bypass, toss a 5 speed in it, bigger sway bars make a huge difference, get rid of the AC if its got it, 17lb/hr disk style injectors help a lot. You could always go with a higher ratio rear end, V8 springs, uh, tons more.

But they are correct on one thing, you can put the same money in a V6 as you could a V8 and the V8 will always be faster. However, if all you're into is making what you got better, there are tons to do!

[87Camaro]

hey guys thanks for all the great help about my car ;D ;D i thank u all. u all have great ideas about my car.
if i were to sell my camaro and buy a V8 camaro wat should i be looking for?? ???

thanks again for all the help ;D

[87Camaro]

o ya wat gen should i be looking at to be buying??

[Vulcan]

that depends on what you want...

[87Camaro]

that depends on what you want...
i like the 1988 wat ever gen that is?

[79 Z28]

1st gen is 1967-1969
2nd gen is 1970-1981
3rd gen is 1982-1992
4th gen is 1993-2002

[87Camaro]

1st gen is 1967-1969
2nd gen is 1970-1981
3rd gen is 1982-1992
4th gen is 1993-2002
ya i like the 3rd gen
now wat should i be looking at when i buy the car?? km, auto/manual,engine, and anything else?? ???
i dont really now wat to look for so ya...

[mousemaker]

ya i like the 3rd gen
now wat should i be looking at when i buy the car?? km, auto/manual,engine, and anything else?? ???
i dont really now wat to look for so ya...


If you want the most power stock find a 350 car, their only downside is they're all auto (unless someone swapped in a manual or pulled a 305 for a 350). Or you could find a 305 5-speed car and do the swap yourself. I also recommend getting a T/A or Z28 (better suspensions stock than others) and Tuned Port Injection (TPI) is much better than Throttle Body Injection (TBI, not an option on 350). And rear disc brakes are always a plus.

[87Camaro]

ya i like the 3rd gen
now wat should i be looking at when i buy the car?? km, auto/manual,engine, and anything else?? ???
i dont really now wat to look for so ya...


If you want the most power stock find a 350 car, their only downside is they're all auto (unless someone swapped in a manual or pulled a 305 for a 350). Or you could find a 305 5-speed car and do the swap yourself. I also recommend getting a T/A or Z28 (better suspensions stock than others) and Tuned Port Injection (TPI) is much better than Throttle Body Injection (TBI, not an option on 350). And rear disc brakes are always a plus.
how much u think it would cost to find a good car like that?? like a Z28??

[87Camaro]

hey mousemaker wat kind of camaro is urs.. its nice and pretty ;D

[mousemaker]

Haha, thanks, it's a '91 RS. I paid $5000 for it back in '97, I paid too much. My engine swap (305 to 350) cost about $3000 (for engine, machining, new flat-top pistons, Comp hydraulic roller cam, installation, etc.)
I think Z28s go for about 4-7 Gs right now (depending on condition and what's been done to them.)

[CrazyCanadian]

I agree get the V8. I did and I like it. If money is tight, and a Z28 is out of your range, get an RS, at least it is a V8. Now an engine and tranny, engine size 305 comes with a manual or auto tranny while the 350 only comes with a automatic tranny. The 350 comes in the more expensive car while the 305 comes with the V8 RS or cheaper Z28. A TPI(Tuned Port Injection) is better than a TBI(Throttle Body Injection). I own a 91 RS V8 paid 5k for it in 2002, far too much, but back then I knew dick all about cars.

[87Camaro]

I agree get the V8. I did and I like it. If money is tight, and a Z28 is out of your range, get an RS, at least it is a V8. Now an engine and tranny, engine size 305 comes with a manual or auto tranny while the 350 only comes with a automatic tranny. The 350 comes in the more expensive car while the 305 comes with the V8 RS or cheaper Z28. A TPI(Tuned Port Injection) is better than a TBI(Throttle Body Injection). I own a 91 RS V8 paid 5k for it in 2002, far too much, but back then I knew dick all about cars.
how much u think i will be spending on a car like that.. like a RS or Z28(probly to price) but still curious on how much...??

[87Camaro]

so i should look like a RS with a 305 with auto or manual, and with TPI. or a Z28 with a 305/ 350 with auto or manual, and with TPI. how much u thinking it will cost??? :-[

[mousemaker]

I think Z28s go for about 4-7 Gs right now (depending on condition and what's been done to them.)

[87Camaro]

I think Z28s go for about 4-7 Gs right now (depending on condition and what's been done to them.)

is that for the whole car??

[Underworld Defender]

check out the buy&sell website.that'll give u an idea of how much some maros are goin for

[CrazyCanadian]

Check our the different years.
http://www.buysell.com/search.asp?qu=Camaro&searchType=s

[87Camaro]

Check our the different years.
http://www.buysell.com/search.asp?qu=Camaro&searchType=s
i went and had a look they got an 1984 camaro Z28(black) 137ooo with a 305, auto, new brakes, and other things i cant remember. the guy wants 3500 obo.(is that a good deal??) should i go and offer him lower?? i goin to go look at i think ;D
yo CrazyCanadian wat wat year of camaro and style is urs its nice

[CrazyCanadian]

The stats for my car are underneath my picture and if you click the text "My Car..." it will bring up my cardomain site which has more info

[mousemaker]

Check our the different years.
http://www.buysell.com/search.asp?qu=Camaro&searchType=s
i went and had a look they got an 1984 camaro Z28(black) 137ooo with a 305, auto, new brakes, and other things i cant remember. the guy wants 3500 obo.(is that a good deal??) should i go and offer him lower?? i goin to go look at i think ;D
yo CrazyCanadian wat wat year of camaro and style is urs its nice


The one that says "***SOLD***"?

[87Camaro]

Check our the different years.
http://www.buysell.com/search.asp?qu=Camaro&searchType=s
i went and had a look they got an 1984 camaro Z28(black) 137ooo with a 305, auto, new brakes, and other things i cant remember. the guy wants 3500 obo.(is that a good deal??) should i go and offer him lower?? i goin to go look at i think ;D
yo CrazyCanadian wat wat year of camaro and style is urs its nice


The one that says "***SOLD***"?
ya thats the one, its gone :'( :( :'(

[CamaroRobZ28beer]

somone on here has a nice 83 z28 for 1500$

[89vert]

don't waste your money on an RS they are junk

Iroc's and Z28 are all around better cars, better suspention, bigger sway bars, posi not 1 tire fire, tpi not gay tbi, etc., etc.

[87Camaro]

somone on here has a nice 83 z28 for 1500$
ya buts its a VI and i dont noe wat that means and wat needs to be done to it??

[R6-Dave]

Maybe you should buy my old car....1988 GTA , 90,000Kms,350-auto,leather,Koni adjustable shocks and struts,Eibach springs,17" Centerlines,chip.....it's on this site in the "Cars for sale" section. It's minty. 8)

[Zion]

my 1991 305 RS was $4000.
i payed to much as well, but only becuase the engine was a lemon.
Just swapped in different 305 and a buddy and i did all the work ourselves... total cost was well under a grand.

if you get an RS 305, then go for a set of headers and exhaust and delete the cat. it gets pretty peppy then. might even be enought to satisfy you if you arent looking for hardcore speed.

[dg]

you would probably be spending 2-5 grand for a decent 305 or 350 third gen

[79 Z28]

don't waste your money on an RS they are junk

Iroc's and Z28 are all around better cars, better suspention, bigger sway bars, posi not 1 tire fire, tpi not gay tbi, etc., etc.
better chassis too. more rienforcement

[Ace_holio]

i paid 6k for my car and i could lhave gotten it forless butnot much less....im happy with mine...very happy....especially now that it is a 5 speed....87camaro...have you bought a car yet?

[POS 1984Z28]

if u want to find a cheaper Z28 i would recomend an 82 - 85 carbed camaro/firebird. Most of them are between $1500-$3000 in the buysell. Most arent in great shape and are slower from the factory than a TPI/TBI car but can easily be modified for more power. I got mine for $1400 and it can spin the tires so its all good!

[sharkslayerca]

if you are a new driver and under about 25 years of age.....keep your present car, get some driving experience, and save all the cash you save on insurance premiums for the purchase of a nice 3 rd gen camaro in a couple of years.
your insurance will be astrinomical on a v-8 with little driving experience and young age......
pay close attention to the forum and learn a bunch about cars and their inherant problems before you loadup on a high powered v-8.....<<<< my 2 cents worth

[Jessev]

hey look its sharkslayer :D so anyways...with a 0% discount and just average coverage and stuff, my V6 is abt 2000/year and the IROC is 2500. so, quite a big difference, but its worth it to me. evrery year without an accident u earn a 5% discount, maxing out at 40% after 8 years.

[PumpkinPie]

hey look its sharkslayer :D so anyways...with a 0% discount and just average coverage and stuff, my V6 is abt 2000/year and the IROC is 2500. so, quite a big difference, but its worth it to me. evrery year without an accident u earn a 5% discount, maxing out at 40% after 8 years.


:| I have a 10% discount and I pay about 3000/year on my v6

[79 Z28]

hey look its sharkslayer :D so anyways...with a 0% discount and just average coverage and stuff, my V6 is abt 2000/year and the IROC is 2500. so, quite a big difference, but its worth it to me. evrery year without an accident u earn a 5% discount, maxing out at 40% after 8 years.


:| I have a 10% discount and I pay about 3000/year on my v6
WTF?! lol mines about 1400 a year :D

[Dizzle]

hey look its sharkslayer :D so anyways...with a 0% discount and just average coverage and stuff, my V6 is abt 2000/year and the IROC is 2500. so, quite a big difference, but its worth it to me. evrery year without an accident u earn a 5% discount, maxing out at 40% after 8 years.


:| I have a 10% discount and I pay about 3000/year on my v6


ha ha to you.

I'm at 10% too and I get insurance for 2600 and that was for a full year + all 1st time licensing fee's. AND IT'S A CONVERTIBLE V8

[79 Z28]

shes got all the options thats why, max insurance